Downloading music and software for free...is it bad? Is it ethically right? It's ok as long as you use it only for your self? Choose your side and defend your argument while referencing to copyright and ethical issues. (1/2 page)
Downloading any software, music, movies etc. is just as bad as stealing them from a store at your local shopping center, it robs its makers of their rightful reward for their efforts in making the software/music/movie in question. Then again, its interesting to look into the statistics of Computer games: Spore, a game released by Electronic Arts, was highly criticized for its Disk Copy Protection that was installed with the game itself anonymously without the innocent installer's consent. Spore then became one of the most highly illegally downloaded game of that year. yet, Sins of a solar empire, a game released by stardock, had insignificant illegal downloads and its generated income was astonishing for a little known developer. Sins had No copy protection on the game and instead, using the age old cd-key method, encouraged people to actually buy it over pirate it by not allowing updates or multiplayer access without a registered CD-Key for that copy of the game. This shows that a majority of people dont like being treated as criminals when they havent done anything wrong. If you dont want your stuff to be stolen, then dont put crap over your potential customers. its like an eye for an eye mentality: treat others as you want others treat you. if you dont want people to violate your copyrights in place, then dont violate our privacy and treat us like theifs.
Well, after watching so many ads on how piracy equivilates to "stealing", you'll think people would have got the message alrdy?!
However, why then do people continue to download. Seriously, everybody has downloaded something. Think about it logically. There was one time when the TV show "BONES" played a rly nice song. Well, I really wanted to listen to that song, well immediately. So I when and downloaded it. Would it have struck you as a little bit odd if I went all out and bought the album etc etc, just for that one song? YES.
Let us now ask ourselves the question of why wee would have found that odd? Answer, because downloading has become so integrated with our society that it has become a norm. People who work in the entertainment and video games industries know that downloading will occur if consumers desire their product. The higher the download rate, well obviously the better the product is.
And people don't call it download anymore these days. Its known by the nicer term of "file sharing" HAHA :) Well, file sharing, is it still illegal? Say someone bought the album and is so happy that he wants to share the song, so he uploads it on youtube. and someone saves the video from youtube as an mp3. so is tht illegal? how would you know about say Rihanna's latest song unless you heard it somewhr. What if you heard the whole album and only wanted that ONE good song. what do you do then?
it makes sense. though it may only cost these people a few cents each time we download (and yes i know it all adds up), well these people make so much overall with their concerts and promotions and well. who really cares? money doesn't make the world go round.
Well first of all I think I speak for the majority of us when I say that we have all downloaded something illegally. Even if it has just been a 3 MB song or even a 50 MB video that is still classified as illegal. The problem with downloading music, software and other things is that it is sooo easy to do. There are many programs out there that allow anyone to download illegal material with ease. A short list of these programs include: 1. Limewire (Yes, most of us have used/heard of it) 2. Emule 3. iMesh 4. Utorrent (Used for torrent files)
All of the above are programs used for downloading of illegal material. And most of the stuff you download is covered in viruses. Really it works out cheaper to buy the music or software because at least then you don't have to worry about the consequences like viruses or getting caught (and fined). Downloading music also hurts the writers, singers and record companies who work for the artists of the music because they are not getting any cash for these song they have written (Although they get enough as it is). This is why I believe Itunes was created (along with other music download sites such as Amazon music and Bigpond music). More people are wanting just one song not 5 or 10 which you get on a CD, they don't want to have to rip the CD to get the song and they cant be bother going down to the shop to buy it, They just want to download it and off they go. This is much more risk free way of downloading because you cant get in trouble by the law or get any unfriendly viruses.
In conclusion I think that downloading illegally is in fact unethical in the way that it affects the people around you, your computer and most of all your Conscience!!!!
Downloading music or software is and can be done very easily with programs such as lime wire or even directly from warez sites. It is easier and more efficient than going down to a music store and buying the whole album. Recently it has been more popular for music (such as iTunes) and software to be distributed over the internet but why would someone pay for what they can get for free. Regardless of morals and ethics why would spend hard earned money on what is freely available at the click of a button. You run the risks of getting a virus but that’s a risk that worth taking.
Tough question...=[ I think, as just about everybody has stated, that downloading music is so easy and so available that it is just regarded as the norm. And lets face it, songs on itunes cost $1.69 per song or an entire album for $30 so why bother when you can download it for free. However, downloading songs is sooo morally and ethically wrong. And then there's that all messy copyright issue and the fact the individuals can be fined for downloading music and films (if caught, mind you). So why would you honestly bother risking it, just pay the $1.69 for music that has a better quality and won't delete itself from iTunes when iTunes needs to be deactivated and reactivated.... (Sorry about all the spelling areas..)
im not sure ahh.. well i download stuff, music, movies etc from internet. everyone does it. it does sound bad and it isnt the right thing to do but majority of people do it.. i used to buy stuff from sanity and cd stores and i still buy movies when they are on special but downloadin songs doesnt make a difference i dont think. well people who make albums etc and movies, if people are downloadin it from the internet it means it is a good movie and they want to hear, watch, it right away and own it themselves. these people who own made the movies or songs in the end will still make quite a lot of money and maybe even to much. will they really care if they lose 1million dollars say from there 10million dollars... well i wouldnt. well maybe i might HAHAA.. this question just goes round in cirles, if things like torrents, limewire, sharing file systems etc wer so bad and effected the producers the government should just but in and do somethin about it. companies like bigpond, itunes. they are continuessly earning money, they wil surely not lose money.. i so laugh if itunes went bankcrupt tmr!!! nah it wont.
Downloading free music and software is a difficult subject, if the author says it is for free and you can have it I totally agree on saying yes, but if he doesn’t say yes, I believe that the answer is no. Many people are using software like Lime wire to download peoples music, there fore destroying the music industry, and then degrading our economy even further. When someone may need the money to provide a lifestyle like you do as your job. Music Artists do no make music for fun but as an occupation and if we illegally download files then we are stealing from them there money.
Downloading music for me, it is good but as they say (on DVD ads), they burn the future. I don’t quite understand why it does but we are going to find out soon.
I would pick the side of; it is not bad to download music from internet. The only risks we face for us users are viruses when we download them and the quality of the music. Because some of them are downloaded with no good quality plus some are downloaded stupidly with not even the right music.
Basic on BNET Australia People download music for free because they are convenient, speed and cost. Some say it is cheaper to buy them online than a CD but most say that music is still simply too expensive. People have been complaining about the price of CDs since they were invented and although the record industry has now embraced the idea of selling the tracks, they still insist on charging high prices for the privilege.
Record companies work hard to distribute these media files to the public but losing money now because no one buys their products at a store, they instead steal them from the internet. Downloading copyrighted files is illegal, regardless of the situation. They say too many people are breaking the law on a daily basis without any regards for their actions, while the music and record industries are falling horribly.
Twenty first century has become an age of smaller is better. Digital music players that can hold well over 100 songs and are barely larger than a credit card, so they ask “why wouldn’t people want to make the change from the relatively bulky CD folder to a player?” Which are just like in days gone by when the smaller CDs took the place of the larger clumsier tumtable and vinyl records, so has the digital age taken over the role of the CD.
I personally think since there are illegal problems going around the world about the fact that downloading music instead of buying CDs. They should try figure something out about it, e.g. bring the cost down so people can start buying again, without thinking “hey we can just download for free, why not? Then waste money” so if the prices were brought down, everyone will say “hey its an alright price, why not?” and for the ones who are just stingy, for online users, they should just ban the use of downloading music and sharing them so no one can find them online to download. This basically solves everything.
Ok here we go again talking about the highly debatable subject of downloading or buying?
In my opinion downloading any type of material off the Internet for free is BRILLIANT! However extremely illegal and morally wrong :(
I must admit I do download a lot of music off the Internet but where do we draw the line? I mean think about it....if you were an artist that spent all your time (just like working a 9-5 job or going to school) on making an album...then finding out your album sold thousands and thousands of copies...however you find that billions more have been illigally copied and downloaded off the internet...YOU'D BE SPEWING!
I guess that's what we all have to keep in mind before we all click the TEMPTING download button...Its very easy to say 'you're stealing if you download blah blah blah' but how often have we gone overseas and brought priated movies for $2? We're paying for it so what's the problem?...right?....
The fact is, take for instence our TCC LIVE crew (The Good Life/The Pulse). When we made our TV shows we spent heaps of time and energy on actually making an entertaining show for our school to watch...Now imagine that times about 10...thats how much effort and people are required to make a movie...All of those people deserve their profits they get...not some other joe blow who copies the movies then make profit out of that.....
I guess we all just have to be humble and either borrow someone's album or just go out and buy it...but what if I want it now? Well myspace is a great place to listen to almost any song LEGALLY! As many times as you want...There done deal...
This is a good question for every user who uses technology. Downloading any form of music or video that is copyrighted is illegal. Most people today dont seem to realise the harm that they are doing by downloading these types of things.
My view on this is that you shouldn't download any copyrighted material you may find on the internet. The problem is today that it has become a common thing for people to do in the world today, many people using programs like Limewire to download illegal content has been affecting the products that they are recieving.
The harm that this is doing is to the owners of the product, the industry of that product is losing money because it is being shared all over the world. This is causing companies and industries to lose money throughout the world. The solution to this is very simple, if people were to do the right thing and buy music or borrow music of a friend it would solve the problem.
Downloading music and software for free……. Well I have done it, I know it’s wrong but still, its there and you don’t realise what your doing is wrong. So I can’t defend this argument, I think the right thing to do is just don’t download music. If you where a Musician or in a band would you like it if people were downloading your music. It is a career and people take a lot of time to come up with songs, and people can just download them free of the internet. Personally this is a bad thing to do because downloading music can ruin someone’s career and you can get fined heavily if the LAW catches you! So we hear this argument all the time, on the news, in the newspaper, on the internet. The thing is how can you get rid of people downloading music, and how can you catch people doing it?
And to answer your second question is it ok to download if you only use it for yourself? No I believe it isn’t ok to download, yet again I still do it… I think it is safe to say we have all seen the ads in the movies and on TV saying downloading is just like stealing a movie or a car.
I think if we all new the consequences of downloading music, it would be stopped!
Hmm lets see. To start of I want to say that I totally morally disagree with downloading music/movies/software illegally. However since I do download music my morals aren’t playing a big part in this argument. But, and this is a big but, I can’t ignore them. There have been times where I’ve thought that maybe I should stop and maybe I should listen to that ad before almost every movie with that catching tune. However the temptation is too great. The urge to have that awesome song by that awesome band called Hillsong United is too much. When we get down to the nitty gritty, the truth is we are cheating the talented musicians of their talent, their time, their money and their life. We trick ourselves into thinking it isn’t illegal because its “file sharing” and its fine. Pfft what a load of rubbish. Its still illegal. Copyright laws says NO!! Musician say NO!!! I say NO!! but I do it anyway.
I believe that downloading music, videos, movies and software of the internet is not a bad thing. I mean c'mon, we are a new generation who does almost everything on the computer. When we need something done fast like create a website, instead of going out to buy the program which is can be expensive and also wastes valuable time. Anyway sites like ITunes also gives away music or movies to download for free. So I don't think people will be complaining. Plus there are also some musicians and bands who give out free music to the public like Switchfoot. They request fans to make copies of some of their singles like 'Mess OF Me' to give to their friends. Anyway, the only con of downloading free is getting viruses but if you have an anti virus program, there is no need to worry.
Now heres a good one. Congrats mr Franco, you have me stumped. This is without a doubt a very hard and differcu- oh, I can't finish that sentence.
Of course its ethically and morally wrong! you'd have to be soulless not to think that. downloading things for free has been robbing those who are already swimming in gold coins along with Scrooge Mc'Duck and the rest of the pool party, and they're soon gonna realise there slowly drying up. Imagine some of the best australian movies ever made and the enivitability of more goods coming to an end because working at Kmart would pay off more.
Now, when it comes to songs that are older than the hills or are not considered sellable, then I for one will be happy to turn a blind eye because chances are these wont be on legal programs. Thats about the only counter argument I can find.
In my opinion, i think downloading media or software off the net is a bad thing. It slowly destroys the point of even selling music (or software) in the first place. More and more people are downloading media or software off the net, there are some advantages of doing so, but there are always disadvantages aswell.
The advantages are: 1. quicker than driving to the shops and getting what you want 2. Its getting more available to everyone 3. You dont have to pay for it
Some disadvantages: 1. It is slowly destoying the sales economics 2. More than a quarter of the available downloads are viruses to trick people 3. of course, its not authentic, for example you download a game. You need to find a valid CD key and most likely need a crack to run the game.
So, as i was saying, i dont think it is ethicly right for people to download things, unless it is free software such as AVG anti-virus or adobe flash player etc etc. The biggest problem the governments and police are having is that they cant stop it. It spreads all across the world like a pandemic. As i said, it is getting bigger and bigger by the minute.
Downloading, the great debate is it just stealing but in our new virtual world or is it freedom to all kinds of things like music, movies and games? A friend once told me that they thought that all music should be free,; this person thought it was our basic human right for us to have such things, but in saying this they said that they didn’t want people to steal others music, but they thought that it should be free for all to listen to. My mind wonders though to the artists of these songs, I know that a lot of the time they won’t have much of a say about money and payment, because they are pretty much owned by the music labels that they record with, these are the people who really want the money and depending on the artist, they would probably want a lot of money as well. I have known some artist’s to not really care about money but are known just to want to play because they enjoy it. In Australia the laws for downloading are as follows no body anywhere in Australia can download any file whatsoever can download any file without the expressed permission of the artist and or company of an artist.
if i had to pick a side i would pick that it isn't bad if you are going to use it for your self. i mean if people didn't download music then there would be no count downs because they run on people down loading music. so i think that it is fine if you are just going to keep it to your self like if you go onto lime wire and download music there that is fine because you are just going to put it onto there i pod i mean if they down loaded the music and copyrighted it then that would be bad i would have to say no to that but if they are just putting it onto ther i pod then it is fine. downloading software that is fine because you are just going to put onto your computer and hopefully nothing else. but if you download the software and try to copy write it then yes that is bad. so i think that if you download music or software in intent to copy write or sell it as your own thing then yes it is bad. but if you download and put the music straight onto your i pod then that i fine. and if you download the software just for personal use then that is fine as well.
DOWNLOADING STUFF FROM THE INTERNET IS AWESOME!!!! :)
People always tends to think or talk about the problem of ethics and copy right and blah blah blah. but come on, open your eyes and look out of your own little social circle. How many people have/are downloading stuff from the internet? Why do people do it?! simple, its convenient and most importantly, ITS FREEEE!!! face it, people love freebies. Why bother paying about 50 bucks buying an album just so you can listen to the one song you like in the album? its stupid. its like you're paying 50 bucks for a song, rip off much?! also think of this, while people are going down to the shop miles away, taking out their wallet, pulling out notes and paying for a CD/DVD with some music/movies inside. I can just be sitting at home, do a couple of button pressing and click a few times and baam i got the song, listening to it and chilling at home. chances of cops rocking up at my place askin gme to pay for a song... very very very unlikely. if its that bad, half the population of earth would be broke.
So my opinion is, downloading stuff from internet is fine. noting is wrong with it, maybe a bit unethical with the way we are taking stuff without paying for it. but there is a simple solution. Make the stuff available through download and put security on it and lower the cost of the item. baaaaam peace!
Yes, it may be illegal, however young people all over the world download everyday, whether it would be music, movies or software. Most downloaders would be aware that this may be illegal yet they still do it. I guess until people understand the whole idea of downloading properly, and until they feel guilty about downloading, they’ll keep doing it. Downloaders get tired of people telling them its wrong, illegal and it’s stealing, but thats because they don’t understand it. If they got the problem explained to them, then they may be able to make up their minds for themselves. I believe it is stealing, unless its a free song or program.
We’ve all seen the anti-piracy adds: you wouldn’t steal a car, you wouldn’t steal a handbag, piracy is stealing, etc. Firstly, these ads assume that we are all good willed people who would never think to steal something, which for some is simply not true. It should be a known fact that virtually everyone has downloaded music or software before. Chances are, if you have a computer with the internet, you would have downloaded something illegally at least once. The fact is, people download thousands of songs and material illegally every day, there is not much you can do to stop it. Does that make it right? No it doesn’t, however, it is generally becoming more and more accepted by everyone on the basis that it is pretty much unpreventable. Besides, downloading one or more songs online should not be enough to get someone locked away. If you are only using it to listen to for yourself and you aren’t doing anything harmful, like trying to get money by selling music online or claiming certain things as your own when they were made by someone else, then what’s the big problem? If it is not harming anyone, then there really shouldn’t be any problem with it, simple as that.
I don't think there is any argument about whether or not downloading music, software and other files which would otherwise cost money, for free, is unethical and equivalent to stealing from a store. The difference with internet piracy is that it is a lot easier, and basically unpoliced unless you become some sort of internet piracy leader who runs a website or piracy group, only then will the law attempt to intervene. My biggest problem, however, is with file protection or DRM (digital rights management). My argument is that it really doesn't help anyone. I'll give an example: (To the above posters: Yes, I know the story too) Spore, a popular video game, contained a state of the art version of SecuROM, a copy protection program. The program would install without a mention in the EULA (end user license agreement, lack of a mention in this document means infrigement on the user's rights) and cause slowdown and other problems for the end user's computer. As a result, it was pirated more than any other game to date, with a one to one legitimate copy to pirated version ratio. 500,000 copies sold, 500,000 pirated. People pirated it as usual, people pirated it because they heard about the SecuROM protection causing problems and people pirated it after paying for it to avoid the copy protection. The best part? The people who cracked the game did it the day it came out, just as quickly as any other game, and the pirated versions had the advantage of lacking SecuROM, which caused so much controversy. In contrast, Sins of a Solar Empire (yes, I knew that too) contains no copy protection and sold hundreds of thousands of copies regardless. In short, copy protection does nothing for anyone, and piracy will not ever be completely stopped, so we should just learn to live with it and accept it as a part of life.
Okay so let me see… I have downloaded a few things before, and I don’t think that it is wrong to do so, if you are doing it for the right reasons. I mean I was looking everywhere for a song for a church service that I was preparing for the next day, I just couldn’t find it anywhere. So I looked up on the web for it, and then it hit me like a bang… BANG!. It is soo easy to get your hands on music via the web. So it can get out of hand, eventually if you continually do it, I mean like, most of the time like on ITunes you pay about $1.69 for a song, I don’t see why people cant just go down to the local store and buy themselves a CD. This is the right thing to do,
With this topic i think it is important to remember that for artists who sell there music and also have many people illegally download it, they are ultimately reaching a much larger audience, which always comes at a cost. Rather than these Artists having to jump over hurdles and through hoops all they have to do is wait till some1 uploads there music online then WAMM!!! they've reached at least a million people within a week what an amazingly free commodity they would normally have to spend millions to do.
i personally think when it comes to movie makers and producers, half of them dont even deserve to be in their position they are always making horribly shocking movies and sucking all the money out of these poor hard working families who think watching these movies will be worth while just because of how much money the producers spent on advertising. i mean seriously who will go and watch the new movie G-force, apart from 6 year old boys who drag there parents and probably the rest of there family along? no one? i didnt think so. On the other hand if it is free on the internet i guess some people who wouldn't normally go and watch it will download it. There's some free viewer criticism or fame for the directors and producers right there.
just recently i saw district 9 at someones house that they had downloaded. Now this movie was so good that i took my family along to see it in the cinemas and they loved it. just because i saw a pirated version of the movie doesn't mean good directors and film producers will lose money. If they do a good job no one can stop people from wanting to go see there films in the cinemas or buy the new blu-ray discs that are not so readily available on the internet.
Downloading music and software is such an easy thing to do and practically everyone has done it before. People just think why should I spend $1.69 on itunes when I can just get it for free. And plus there is so many people downloading these days it just seems like the normal thing to do. But even though thousands of people do it, downloading music is unethical and exactly the same as stealing something from any shop, people just don’t think about it like that.
That is a hard question. I personally think that in a perfect world all music should be free as I am in love with it and don't think that your musical library should be limited by the amount of money you earn. However having said this, we are not in a perfect world and buying cd's or music from itunes is not too expensive. The fact that the oportunity to download music is so common and available has resulted in people seeming to regard it as normal and turning a blind eye to the subject. For many people the only reason they do not download music for free is the risk of being fined huge amounts of money, not the fact that it is 'ethically wrong'. But with every area of life there will always be risk takers and unless the government comes up with a foolproof way of stopping the downloading of music and software this problem will never go away.
Downloading any software, music, movies etc. is just as bad as stealing them from a store at your local shopping center, it robs its makers of their rightful reward for their efforts in making the software/music/movie in question.
ReplyDeleteThen again, its interesting to look into the statistics of Computer games: Spore, a game released by Electronic Arts, was highly criticized for its Disk Copy Protection that was installed with the game itself anonymously without the innocent installer's consent. Spore then became one of the most highly illegally downloaded game of that year. yet, Sins of a solar empire, a game released by stardock, had insignificant illegal downloads and its generated income was astonishing for a little known developer. Sins had No copy protection on the game and instead, using the age old cd-key method, encouraged people to actually buy it over pirate it by not allowing updates or multiplayer access without a registered CD-Key for that copy of the game.
This shows that a majority of people dont like being treated as criminals when they havent done anything wrong. If you dont want your stuff to be stolen, then dont put crap over your potential customers. its like an eye for an eye mentality: treat others as you want others treat you. if you dont want people to violate your copyrights in place, then dont violate our privacy and treat us like theifs.
Downloading hey?
ReplyDeleteWell, after watching so many ads on how piracy equivilates to "stealing", you'll think people would have got the message alrdy?!
However, why then do people continue to download. Seriously, everybody has downloaded something. Think about it logically. There was one time when the TV show "BONES" played a rly nice song. Well, I really wanted to listen to that song, well immediately. So I when and downloaded it. Would it have struck you as a little bit odd if I went all out and bought the album etc etc, just for that one song? YES.
Let us now ask ourselves the question of why wee would have found that odd? Answer, because downloading has become so integrated with our society that it has become a norm. People who work in the entertainment and video games industries know that downloading will occur if consumers desire their product. The higher the download rate, well obviously the better the product is.
And people don't call it download anymore these days. Its known by the nicer term of "file sharing" HAHA :) Well, file sharing, is it still illegal? Say someone bought the album and is so happy that he wants to share the song, so he uploads it on youtube. and someone saves the video from youtube as an mp3. so is tht illegal? how would you know about say Rihanna's latest song unless you heard it somewhr. What if you heard the whole album and only wanted that ONE good song. what do you do then?
it makes sense. though it may only cost these people a few cents each time we download (and yes i know it all adds up), well these people make so much overall with their concerts and promotions and well. who really cares? money doesn't make the world go round.
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Take a side!
ReplyDeleteWell first of all I think I speak for the majority of us when I say that we have all downloaded something illegally. Even if it has just been a 3 MB song or even a 50 MB video that is still classified as illegal. The problem with downloading music, software and other things is that it is sooo easy to do. There are many programs out there that allow anyone to download illegal material with ease. A short list of these programs include:
1. Limewire (Yes, most of us have used/heard of it)
2. Emule
3. iMesh
4. Utorrent (Used for torrent files)
All of the above are programs used for downloading of illegal material. And most of the stuff you download is covered in viruses. Really it works out cheaper to buy the music or software because at least then you don't have to worry about the consequences like viruses or getting caught (and fined). Downloading music also hurts the writers, singers and record companies who work for the artists of the music because they are not getting any cash for these song they have written (Although they get enough as it is). This is why I believe Itunes was created (along with other music download sites such as Amazon music and Bigpond music). More people are wanting just one song not 5 or 10 which you get on a CD, they don't want to have to rip the CD to get the song and they cant be bother going down to the shop to buy it, They just want to download it and off they go. This is much more risk free way of downloading because you cant get in trouble by the law or get any unfriendly viruses.
In conclusion I think that downloading illegally is in fact unethical in the way that it affects the people around you, your computer and most of all your Conscience!!!!
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ReplyDeleteDownloading music or software is and can be done very easily with programs such as lime wire or even directly from warez sites. It is easier and more efficient than going down to a music store and buying the whole album. Recently it has been more popular for music (such as iTunes) and software to be distributed over the internet but why would someone pay for what they can get for free. Regardless of morals and ethics why would spend hard earned money on what is freely available at the click of a button. You run the risks of getting a virus but that’s a risk that worth taking.
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ReplyDeleteI think, as just about everybody has stated, that downloading music is so easy and so available that it is just regarded as the norm. And lets face it, songs on itunes cost $1.69 per song or an entire album for $30 so why bother when you can download it for free.
However, downloading songs is sooo morally and ethically wrong. And then there's that all messy copyright issue and the fact the individuals can be fined for downloading music and films (if caught, mind you). So why would you honestly bother risking it, just pay the $1.69 for music that has a better quality and won't delete itself from iTunes when iTunes needs to be deactivated and reactivated....
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im not sure ahh.. well i download stuff, music, movies etc from internet. everyone does it. it does sound bad and it isnt the right thing to do but majority of people do it.. i used to buy stuff from sanity and cd stores and i still buy movies when they are on special but downloadin songs doesnt make a difference i dont think. well people who make albums etc and movies, if people are downloadin it from the internet it means it is a good movie and they want to hear, watch, it right away and own it themselves. these people who own made the movies or songs in the end will still make quite a lot of money and maybe even to much. will they really care if they lose 1million dollars say from there 10million dollars... well i wouldnt. well maybe i might HAHAA..
ReplyDeletethis question just goes round in cirles, if things like torrents, limewire, sharing file systems etc wer so bad and effected the producers the government should just but in and do somethin about it.
companies like bigpond, itunes. they are continuessly earning money, they wil surely not lose money.. i so laugh if itunes went bankcrupt tmr!!! nah it wont.
Downloading free music and software is a difficult subject, if the author says it is for free and you can have it I totally agree on saying yes, but if he doesn’t say yes, I believe that the answer is no. Many people are using software like Lime wire to download peoples music, there fore destroying the music industry, and then degrading our economy even further. When someone may need the money to provide a lifestyle like you do as your job. Music Artists do no make music for fun but as an occupation and if we illegally download files then we are stealing from them there money.
ReplyDeleteDownloading music for me, it is good but as they say (on DVD ads), they burn the future. I don’t quite understand why it does but we are going to find out soon.
ReplyDeleteI would pick the side of; it is not bad to download music from internet. The only risks we face for us users are viruses when we download them and the quality of the music. Because some of them are downloaded with no good quality plus some are downloaded stupidly with not even the right music.
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People download music for free because they are convenient, speed and cost. Some say it is cheaper to buy them online than a CD but most say that music is still simply too expensive. People have been complaining about the price of CDs since they were invented and although the record industry has now embraced the idea of selling the tracks, they still insist on charging high prices for the privilege.
Record companies work hard to distribute these media files to the public but losing money now because no one buys their products at a store, they instead steal them from the internet. Downloading copyrighted files is illegal, regardless of the situation. They say too many people are breaking the law on a daily basis without any regards for their actions, while the music and record industries are falling horribly.
Twenty first century has become an age of smaller is better. Digital music players that can hold well over 100 songs and are barely larger than a credit card, so they ask “why wouldn’t people want to make the change from the relatively bulky CD folder to a player?” Which are just like in days gone by when the smaller CDs took the place of the larger clumsier tumtable and vinyl records, so has the digital age taken over the role of the CD.
I personally think since there are illegal problems going around the world about the fact that downloading music instead of buying CDs. They should try figure something out about it, e.g. bring the cost down so people can start buying again, without thinking “hey we can just download for free, why not? Then waste money” so if the prices were brought down, everyone will say “hey its an alright price, why not?” and for the ones who are just stingy, for online users, they should just ban the use of downloading music and sharing them so no one can find them online to download. This basically solves everything.
Ok here we go again talking about the highly debatable subject of downloading or buying?
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion downloading any type of material off the Internet for free is BRILLIANT! However extremely illegal and morally wrong :(
I must admit I do download a lot of music off the Internet but where do we draw the line? I mean think about it....if you were an artist that spent all your time (just like working a 9-5 job or going to school) on making an album...then finding out your album sold thousands and thousands of copies...however you find that billions more have been illigally copied and downloaded off the internet...YOU'D BE SPEWING!
I guess that's what we all have to keep in mind before we all click the TEMPTING download button...Its very easy to say 'you're stealing if you download blah blah blah' but how often have we gone overseas and brought priated movies for $2? We're paying for it so what's the problem?...right?....
The fact is, take for instence our TCC LIVE crew (The Good Life/The Pulse). When we made our TV shows we spent heaps of time and energy on actually making an entertaining show for our school to watch...Now imagine that times about 10...thats how much effort and people are required to make a movie...All of those people deserve their profits they get...not some other joe blow who copies the movies then make profit out of that.....
I guess we all just have to be humble and either borrow someone's album or just go out and buy it...but what if I want it now? Well myspace is a great place to listen to almost any song LEGALLY! As many times as you want...There done deal...
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ReplyDeleteThis is a good question for every user who uses technology. Downloading any form of music or video that is copyrighted is illegal. Most people today dont seem to realise the harm that they are doing by downloading these types of things.
ReplyDeleteMy view on this is that you shouldn't download any copyrighted material you may find on the internet. The problem is today that it has become a common thing for people to do in the world today, many people using programs like Limewire to download illegal content has been affecting the products that they are recieving.
The harm that this is doing is to the owners of the product, the industry of that product is losing money because it is being shared all over the world. This is causing companies and industries to lose money throughout the world. The solution to this is very simple, if people were to do the right thing and buy music or borrow music of a friend it would solve the problem.
Downloading music and software for free……. Well I have done it, I know it’s wrong but still, its there and you don’t realise what your doing is wrong. So I can’t defend this argument, I think the right thing to do is just don’t download music. If you where a Musician or in a band would you like it if people were downloading your music. It is a career and people take a lot of time to come up with songs, and people can just download them free of the internet. Personally this is a bad thing to do because downloading music can ruin someone’s career and you can get fined heavily if the LAW catches you!
ReplyDeleteSo we hear this argument all the time, on the news, in the newspaper, on the internet. The thing is how can you get rid of people downloading music, and how can you catch people doing it?
And to answer your second question is it ok to download if you only use it for yourself? No I believe it isn’t ok to download, yet again I still do it…
I think it is safe to say we have all seen the ads in the movies and on TV saying downloading is just like stealing a movie or a car.
I think if we all new the consequences of downloading music, it would be stopped!
Hmm lets see.
ReplyDeleteTo start of I want to say that I totally morally disagree with downloading music/movies/software illegally. However since I do download music my morals aren’t playing a big part in this argument. But, and this is a big but, I can’t ignore them. There have been times where I’ve thought that maybe I should stop and maybe I should listen to that ad before almost every movie with that catching tune. However the temptation is too great. The urge to have that awesome song by that awesome band called Hillsong United is too much. When we get down to the nitty gritty, the truth is we are cheating the talented musicians of their talent, their time, their money and their life. We trick ourselves into thinking it isn’t illegal because its “file sharing” and its fine. Pfft what a load of rubbish. Its still illegal. Copyright laws says NO!! Musician say NO!!! I say NO!! but I do it anyway.
I believe that downloading music, videos, movies and software of the internet is not a bad thing. I mean c'mon, we are a new generation who does almost everything on the computer. When we need something done fast like create a website, instead of going out to buy the program which is can be expensive and also wastes valuable time. Anyway sites like ITunes also gives away music or movies to download for free. So I don't think people will be complaining. Plus there are also some musicians and bands who give out free music to the public like Switchfoot. They request fans to make copies of some of their singles like 'Mess OF Me' to give to their friends. Anyway, the only con of downloading free is getting viruses but if you have an anti virus program, there is no need to worry.
ReplyDeleteNow heres a good one. Congrats mr Franco, you have me stumped. This is without a doubt a very hard and differcu- oh, I can't finish that sentence.
ReplyDeleteOf course its ethically and morally wrong! you'd have to be soulless not to think that. downloading things for free has been robbing those who are already swimming in gold coins along with Scrooge Mc'Duck and the rest of the pool party, and they're soon gonna realise there slowly drying up. Imagine some of the best australian movies ever made and the enivitability of more goods coming to an end because working at Kmart would pay off more.
Now, when it comes to songs that are older than the hills or are not considered sellable, then I for one will be happy to turn a blind eye because chances are these wont be on legal programs. Thats about the only counter argument I can find.
In my opinion, i think downloading media or software off the net is a bad thing. It slowly destroys the point of even selling music (or software) in the first place. More and more people are downloading media or software off the net, there are some advantages of doing so, but there are always disadvantages aswell.
ReplyDeleteThe advantages are:
1. quicker than driving to the shops and getting what you want
2. Its getting more available to everyone
3. You dont have to pay for it
Some disadvantages:
1. It is slowly destoying the sales economics
2. More than a quarter of the available downloads are viruses to trick people
3. of course, its not authentic, for example you download a game. You need to find a valid CD key and most likely need a crack to run the game.
So, as i was saying, i dont think it is ethicly right for people to download things, unless it is free software such as AVG anti-virus or adobe flash player etc etc. The biggest problem the governments and police are having is that they cant stop it. It spreads all across the world like a pandemic. As i said, it is getting bigger and bigger by the minute.
Downloading, the great debate is it just stealing but in our new virtual world or is it freedom to all kinds of things like music, movies and games? A friend once told me that they thought that all music should be free,; this person thought it was our basic human right for us to have such things, but in saying this they said that they didn’t want people to steal others music, but they thought that it should be free for all to listen to. My mind wonders though to the artists of these songs, I know that a lot of the time they won’t have much of a say about money and payment, because they are pretty much owned by the music labels that they record with, these are the people who really want the money and depending on the artist, they would probably want a lot of money as well. I have known some artist’s to not really care about money but are known just to want to play because they enjoy it. In Australia the laws for downloading are as follows no body anywhere in Australia can download any file whatsoever can download any file without the expressed permission of the artist and or company of an artist.
ReplyDeleteif i had to pick a side i would pick that it isn't bad if you are going to use it for your self.
ReplyDeletei mean if people didn't download music then there would be no count downs because they run on people down loading music. so i think that it is fine if you are just going to keep it to your self like if you go onto lime wire and download music there that is fine because you are just going to put it onto there i pod i mean if they down loaded the music and copyrighted it then that would be bad i would have to say no to that but if they are just putting it onto ther i pod then it is fine.
downloading software that is fine because you are just going to put onto your computer and hopefully nothing else. but if you download the software and try to copy write it then yes that is bad.
so i think that if you download music or software in intent to copy write or sell it as your own thing then yes it is bad. but if you download and put the music straight onto your i pod then that i fine. and if you download the software just for personal use then that is fine as well.
DOWNLOADING STUFF FROM THE INTERNET IS AWESOME!!!! :)
ReplyDeletePeople always tends to think or talk about the problem of ethics and copy right and blah blah blah. but come on, open your eyes and look out of your own little social circle. How many people have/are downloading stuff from the internet? Why do people do it?! simple, its convenient and most importantly, ITS FREEEE!!!
face it, people love freebies. Why bother paying about 50 bucks buying an album just so you can listen to the one song you like in the album? its stupid. its like you're paying 50 bucks for a song, rip off much?! also think of this, while people are going down to the shop miles away, taking out their wallet, pulling out notes and paying for a CD/DVD with some music/movies inside. I can just be sitting at home, do a couple of button pressing and click a few times and baam i got the song, listening to it and chilling at home. chances of cops rocking up at my place askin gme to pay for a song... very very very unlikely. if its that bad, half the population of earth would be broke.
So my opinion is, downloading stuff from internet is fine. noting is wrong with it, maybe a bit unethical with the way we are taking stuff without paying for it. but there is a simple solution. Make the stuff available through download and put security on it and lower the cost of the item. baaaaam peace!
Yes, it may be illegal, however young people all over the world download everyday, whether it would be music, movies or software. Most downloaders would be aware that this may be illegal yet they still do it. I guess until people understand the whole idea of downloading properly, and until they feel guilty about downloading, they’ll keep doing it.
ReplyDeleteDownloaders get tired of people telling them its wrong, illegal and it’s stealing, but thats because they don’t understand it. If they got the problem explained to them, then they may be able to make up their minds for themselves. I believe it is stealing, unless its a free song or program.
We’ve all seen the anti-piracy adds: you wouldn’t steal a car, you wouldn’t steal a handbag, piracy is stealing, etc. Firstly, these ads assume that we are all good willed people who would never think to steal something, which for some is simply not true. It should be a known fact that virtually everyone has downloaded music or software before. Chances are, if you have a computer with the internet, you would have downloaded something illegally at least once. The fact is, people download thousands of songs and material illegally every day, there is not much you can do to stop it. Does that make it right? No it doesn’t, however, it is generally becoming more and more accepted by everyone on the basis that it is pretty much unpreventable. Besides, downloading one or more songs online should not be enough to get someone locked away. If you are only using it to listen to for yourself and you aren’t doing anything harmful, like trying to get money by selling music online or claiming certain things as your own when they were made by someone else, then what’s the big problem? If it is not harming anyone, then there really shouldn’t be any problem with it, simple as that.
ReplyDeleteI don't think there is any argument about whether or not downloading music, software and other files which would otherwise cost money, for free, is unethical and equivalent to stealing from a store. The difference with internet piracy is that it is a lot easier, and basically unpoliced unless you become some sort of internet piracy leader who runs a website or piracy group, only then will the law attempt to intervene. My biggest problem, however, is with file protection or DRM (digital rights management). My argument is that it really doesn't help anyone. I'll give an example: (To the above posters: Yes, I know the story too) Spore, a popular video game, contained a state of the art version of SecuROM, a copy protection program. The program would install without a mention in the EULA (end user license agreement, lack of a mention in this document means infrigement on the user's rights) and cause slowdown and other problems for the end user's computer. As a result, it was pirated more than any other game to date, with a one to one legitimate copy to pirated version ratio. 500,000 copies sold, 500,000 pirated. People pirated it as usual, people pirated it because they heard about the SecuROM protection causing problems and people pirated it after paying for it to avoid the copy protection. The best part? The people who cracked the game did it the day it came out, just as quickly as any other game, and the pirated versions had the advantage of lacking SecuROM, which caused so much controversy. In contrast, Sins of a Solar Empire (yes, I knew that too) contains no copy protection and sold hundreds of thousands of copies regardless. In short, copy protection does nothing for anyone, and piracy will not ever be completely stopped, so we should just learn to live with it and accept it as a part of life.
ReplyDeleteOkay so let me see… I have downloaded a few things before, and I don’t think that it is wrong to do so, if you are doing it for the right reasons. I mean I was looking everywhere for a song for a church service that I was preparing for the next day, I just couldn’t find it anywhere. So I looked up on the web for it, and then it hit me like a bang… BANG!. It is soo easy to get your hands on music via the web. So it can get out of hand, eventually if you continually do it, I mean like, most of the time like on ITunes you pay about $1.69 for a song, I don’t see why people cant just go down to the local store and buy themselves a CD. This is the right thing to do,
ReplyDeleteWith this topic i think it is important to remember that for artists who sell there music and also have many people illegally download it, they are ultimately reaching a much larger audience, which always comes at a cost. Rather than these Artists having to jump over hurdles and through hoops all they have to do is wait till some1 uploads there music online then WAMM!!! they've reached at least a million people within a week what an amazingly free commodity they would normally have to spend millions to do.
ReplyDeletei personally think when it comes to movie makers and producers, half of them dont even deserve to be in their position they are always making horribly shocking movies and sucking all the money out of these poor hard working families who think watching these movies will be worth while just because of how much money the producers spent on advertising. i mean seriously who will go and watch the new movie G-force, apart from 6 year old boys who drag there parents and probably the rest of there family along? no one? i didnt think so. On the other hand if it is free on the internet i guess some people who wouldn't normally go and watch it will download it. There's some free viewer criticism or fame for the directors and producers right there.
just recently i saw district 9 at someones house that they had downloaded. Now this movie was so good that i took my family along to see it in the cinemas and they loved it. just because i saw a pirated version of the movie doesn't mean good directors and film producers will lose money. If they do a good job no one can stop people from wanting to go see there films in the cinemas or buy the new blu-ray discs that are not so readily available on the internet.
thats all i have to say.
ins't this a wonderful world =)
Downloading music and software is such an easy thing to do and practically everyone has done it before. People just think why should I spend $1.69 on itunes when I can just get it for free. And plus there is so many people downloading these days it just seems like the normal thing to do. But even though thousands of people do it, downloading music is unethical and exactly the same as stealing something from any shop, people just don’t think about it like that.
ReplyDeletei guess that it seems to be normal now and people arent cracking down on the crime, so people arent so worried about it.
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ReplyDeleteThat is a hard question. I personally think that in a perfect world all music should be free as I am in love with it and don't think that your musical library should be limited by the amount of money you earn. However having said this, we are not in a perfect world and buying cd's or music from itunes is not too expensive. The fact that the oportunity to download music is so common and available has resulted in people seeming to regard it as normal and turning a blind eye to the subject. For many people the only reason they do not download music for free is the risk of being fined huge amounts of money, not the fact that it is 'ethically wrong'. But with every area of life there will always be risk takers and unless the government comes up with a foolproof way of stopping the downloading of music and software this problem will never go away.